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		<title>Rebol NOT !</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My tour of programming Language I am starting to look at some new programming languages to play with and will use this blog to describe my journey. This is not meant to be a technical dissertation, but more of a common sense approach. more along the line of show me what&#8217;s in for me if [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=albert2233.wordpress.com&amp;blog=9863531&amp;post=3&amp;subd=albert2233&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My tour of programming Language  I am starting to look at some new programming languages to play with and will use this blog to describe my journey.   </p>
<p>This is not meant to be a technical dissertation, but more of a common sense approach. more along the line of  show me what&#8217;s in for me if I invest time to  learn the language ?</p>
<p>I have spent some months to read, learn about rebol. I have gone through all their docs and related sites on Rebol.</p>
<p>I have got to a point where I have come to the conclusion that Rebol is not worth investing my time in.</p>
<p>Reasons for me dropping REBOL.  </p>
<p>1)  It is not a language that will put food on your table. No one is really using it out  there i.e no job offers      Why would people spend time on something that won&#8217;t get  them any job?    </p>
<p>2)  It is not used by any major enterprise for their main apps. </p>
<p>3)  It is a one man show. everything is  about the guy who invented the amiga os.  that&#8217;s how they are positioning the language. What happens once that man disappears ?<br />
Guess i am too young to know about the amiga os, and besides who cares about the amiga os today ? sounds more like a dinosaur to people of my generation.</p>
<p>4)  The world has moved on to truly open or free or open source  language or products or model. That&#8217;s the expectations today.</p>
<p>5)  The language is not free. For example its free core or view don&#8217;t allow someone to write a basic application with database access, which is what most business apps do today.  You need to buy the sdk or command to be able to do so.   	    </p>
<p>Plus there is not much support for a lot of databases as well, except through the odbc module which is not availble with the free download package.	   </p>
<p>6)  the community is very hostile. (  Some time back , on the rebol.com blog,I saw like a group of rebolers       ganging against one  poor guy , who had the misfortune of making comments why their &#8220;try rebol&#8221;  attempt a la  &#8220;try ruby&#8221;  won&#8217;t  be  as successful as the ruby one and the reasons for that. They seemed to have censored his posting. I don&#8217;t see it any more there.</p>
<p>If you happened to be that poor guy, and you are reading this blog, please get in touch.   I would like to hear from you.</p>
<p>7)  It doesn&#8217;t have multi threading for a language that is over 10 years old </p>
<p>8  Its gui (view module)  is so not today. It&#8217;s more like the old gui used by DOS  many years ago and they don&#8217;t even have a &#8220;combo box&#8221; after 10 years of existence. </p>
<p>9) If after over 10 years of existence, it&#8217;s not visible at all  on the TIOBE index, that&#8217;s not a good sign<br />
(Let me add that the Tiobe index,  although  not 100% accurate,  nevertheless reflects quite well whether a language is popular or not)  You can also google and see what comes back. </p>
<p>10)  There is almost no good IDE available for it today after so many years. </p>
<p>11)   The code gives the impression that it is not very readable once your programs get to a substantial size. </p>
<p>12)    I don&#8217;t see this language becoming mainstream  even if you give it 10 more years.  Let&#8217;s wait and see. Only time will confirm whether  this prediction is true or not.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Update 26th Oct 2009:<br />
I am not accepting any comment (favourable or unfavourable) after those I took in during the first few days. There are just too many of them.</p>
<p>Thanks to all of you for your comments.  68% of the remaining unapproved comments agree with me. about 24% disagree, 6% are neutral. about 1% has asked me to look at languages like FAN, CLOJURE, O Caml .  I may try these much later on if I have time.</p>
<p>This blog was ONLY meant for me to express my views on the extra programming languages I am looking into, not for debating every posting I make. I don&#8217;t have the time for that. I am too busy investigating another language which I&#8217;ve just picked.</p>
<p>Good luck to you all with whatever language you&#8217;ve chosen to work with.</p>
<p>UPDATE 3rd september 2011:-<br />
Looks like what I wrote 2 years ago has been proven correct, I checked the site recently and saw no activity to the language. just a couple of extra comments in the blog. and rebol 3 which they have been talking about is not out also. So I was right.  Once the founder disappears, the language disappears. Good thing I did not stick around, it would have wasted 2 years of my life. </p>
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